Pipe #11 - Elephant's Foot ~ Updated pics

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Pipe #11 - Elephant's Foot ~ Updated pics

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This is my most recent pipe. I think it is my best execution to date, but I know there are a lot of things that can be improved upon. I have a couple of pics missing that I thought I had on my phone, but don't. I'll try to add them tonight. (Top view, stem/shank face, and my front view was taken at a bit of an angle which is making the symmetry look off).

Any critique would be greatly appreciated.

-Mark

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finish and grain orientation look spot on to me, superb!
proportions look good, though in my eye, maybe the bowl needs to be a touch smaller, or the shank/bamboo a touch fatter?
In the stem photo, is there a sharp crease behind the button, or a scratch, or a light trick?

Overall: damn!

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Yep. The front of the buttons are giving me fits. I think your right on the proportions as well. Thanks for the input!
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Great work, Mark. I really need to get on your list before your prices skyrocket.
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Your adjustments improved the pipe dramatically, but the bowl still feels like it's leaning too far back, like it's being pulled towards the shank with a taught string. If you try this shape again, cant the bowl forward to let the pipe relax.

To run with the string idea: on every pipe you make, imagine a string between the back of the rim (facing the smoker) and the button. Your goal should be to find a balancing point in the angles so that this string hangs with little tension. Maybe that makes no sense, but it helps me to visualize the relationship between bowl and shank. Let them balance each other instead of pull at each other.

Only other thing I see is these:

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Scratches on a smooth are unacceptable and you should hold yourself to a higher standard than that. You are too good already to let shit like this slide.

I look forward to seeing more pictures. I wanna see your slot, your tenon, and your mortise.

Great work, Mark.
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Thanks, Jeramiah!
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d.huber wrote:Your adjustments improved the pipe dramatically, but the bowl still feels like it's leaning too far back, like it's being pulled towards the shank with a taught string. If you try this shape again, cant the bowl forward to let the pipe relax.

To run with the string idea: on every pipe you make, imagine a string between the back of the rim (facing the smoker) and the button. Your goal should be to find a balancing point in the angles so that this string hangs with little tension. Maybe that makes no sense, but it helps me to visualize the relationship between bowl and shank. Let them balance each other instead of pull at each other.

Only other thing I see is these:

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Scratches on a smooth are unacceptable and you should hold yourself to a higher standard than that. You are too good already to let shit like this slide.

I look forward to seeing more pictures. I wanna see your slot, your tenon, and your mortise.

Great work, Mark.

Thanks, David.

I think I understand what your saying about the string. The cant of the bowl has been one of the things I've been the most unsure of on this pipe since I got it shaped and drilled. I will definitely keep the string concept in mind from now on.

As for the scratches... Holy crap! I don't know how I missed that. I have looked this pipe over and over and I honestly haven't noticed those somehow. I totally agree that scratches aren't acceptable. Now I have to drive home at lunch so I can take another look.

Thanks for the critique! Very helpful.
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Very nice, and very well executed.
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The additional pics, as promised. Trying to work on a makeshift photo setup. Don't have it figured out yet, but it's somewhat better, at least. Need to remember to iron the sheet next time. :)


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Great job, Mark!
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Red wrote:Great job, Mark!
Thanks, Red!
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Looks good.
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Sand the inside of your slot to 400 and buff with a loaded pipe cleaner. The bevel on the rim should have the same finish as the rest of the pipe on a smooth. These little extras make a difference and will help to elevate your work if you do them.

Overall excellent work. This level of quality on your workmanship should be your do-not-drop-below line.

I'm excited to see your work progress.
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d.huber wrote:Sand the inside of your slot to 400 and buff with a loaded pipe cleaner. The bevel on the rim should have the same finish as the rest of the pipe on a smooth. These little extras make a difference and will help to elevate your work if you do them.

Overall excellent work. This level of quality on your workmanship should be your do-not-drop-below line.

I'm excited to see your work progress.
Thanks David. I'll put more time in on the slot. I'm having trouble buffing the rim in general, with out wearing away the other edges... You've given me some good goals to strive for on the next. Thanks.
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fiddlestix wrote:
d.huber wrote:Sand the inside of your slot to 400 and buff with a loaded pipe cleaner. The bevel on the rim should have the same finish as the rest of the pipe on a smooth. These little extras make a difference and will help to elevate your work if you do them.

Overall excellent work. This level of quality on your workmanship should be your do-not-drop-below line.

I'm excited to see your work progress.
Thanks David. I'll put more time in on the slot. I'm having trouble buffing the rim in general, with out wearing away the other edges... You've given me some good goals to strive for on the next. Thanks.
You're welcome!

Try this: sand the bevel to 600 then stain. After that, remove the stain with 800 then 1000 until the finish matches the rest of the pipe then buff the bevel by hand. There are other similar methods to get a good matching finish. Try some stuff out.
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Looking grand! Well done
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Don't use a sheet. Use a piece of white poster board- the kind with a tougher glossy finish.

As far as scratches go- SHAME ON YOU! Na, we all miss that shit, for pipe #11, I think you're doing superb.

Alternative for the rim polishing, round it out a bit more so there isn't such a steep angle. Then just buff with slower rpms on your wheel.

Having a variable speed wheel for buffing is a lifesaver.

Your stem work looks great, the slot work is easily remedied as David explained.

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maxmil wrote:Very nice, and very well executed.
Best regards.
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Thank you, Félix!
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wdteipen wrote:Looks good.
Thanks, Wayne!
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Charl wrote:Looking grand! Well done
I appreciate the kind words, Charl!
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