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After getting some great advice from several of you guys on the Friday night chat, I'd like some input on the finalists I'm considering.

Campbell Hausfeld 80gal 2-Stage
http://www.grizzly.com/products/80-Gall ... sor/T24157

Ingersoll Rand 60gal 2-Stage
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Ing ... /p705.html

Belaire 80gal 2-Stage
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Bel ... p4841.html

I'm leaning toward the Campbell Hausfeld because it has the lowest price, is manufactured in the USA (motor built in Mexico), is very highly rated on multiple websites, and reviews have stated excellent customer service. The other two have mixed reviews (some stating poor customer service) and I've heard and read that some parts may be made in China but they have a slightly higher CFM rating at 90 PSI. The big question for me about the Hausfeld is that I've not heard the brand mentioned among pipe makers and it only delivers 14 CFM at 90 PSI. However it is rated to deliver 13.7 CFM at 175 PSI.

Any information/advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Ingersoll Rand is the VFM for me, in Europe are the best choise along with Aquila compressors.

I would prefer them.

The Ingersoll Rand compressor you linked is the 5 HP 60 gallon. I have the 7.5 HP 80 gallon and it works well. I would imagine the 5HP 60 gallon would run continuously with sandblasting demands. The 7.5 HP 80 gal is twice as expensive but doesn't run continuously and provides a bit more consistency in pressure I would imagine. Were I you, I'd get the most HP and highest capacity you can afford.

wdteipen wrote:The Ingersoll Rand compressor you linked is the 5 HP 60 gallon. I have the 7.5 HP 80 gallon and it works well. I would imagine the 5HP 60 gallon would run continuously with sandblasting demands. The 7.5 HP 80 gal is twice as expensive but doesn't run continuously and provides a bit more consistency in pressure I would imagine. Were I you, I'd get the most HP and highest capacity you can afford.

I concur.

Thanks, guys. You've given me food for thought about my choices. I suppose the challenge right now is that I cannot afford to spend twice as much, unfortunately. I'll be doing some more research before I buy.

http://www.maxtool.com/belaire-5-hp-80- ... at-175-psi

This belaire is only 1189 delivered and is just a little less cfm. I never lose pressure with it.

The one you have listed is better.

Max tool delivered it into my garage at no additional charge. That's gotta count for something.

baweaverpipes wrote:

wdteipen wrote:The Ingersoll Rand compressor you linked is the 5 HP 60 gallon. I have the 7.5 HP 80 gallon and it works well. I would imagine the 5HP 60 gallon would run continuously with sandblasting demands. The 7.5 HP 80 gal is twice as expensive but doesn't run continuously and provides a bit more consistency in pressure I would imagine. Were I you, I'd get the most HP and highest capacity you can afford.

I concur.

Ok then. I do too.

Rad

Dave, the Bel-Air is gonna be a lot better in the long run. The Campbell Hausfeld stuff is full of cheap parts - you'll have drain cocks that seize or fail, or both, pressure switch that feels like a 2 dollar chinese toy, that kind of thing. That's your extra money. The CFM on that unit isn't great (my V-twin is better at 90 psi for example). I bought a similar CH with a twin single pump for a really low price, and I'm happy with it for what I paid, but up near 1000 bucks, I'd be pissed off at all the little stuff that is cheasy on these units. It's really a home-owner brand.

IF you can swing it, buy the Bel Air and rest easy knowing you have a good machine, not a machine that's just DRESSED as a good machine. 1500 bucks is only like, 1.5 UberHuber pipes anyhow.

Sasquatch wrote:Dave, the Bel-Air is gonna be a lot better in the long run. The Campbell Hausfeld stuff is full of cheap parts - you'll have drain cocks that seize or fail, or both, pressure switch that feels like a 2 dollar chinese toy, that kind of thing. That's your extra money. The CFM on that unit isn't great (my V-twin is better at 90 psi for example). I bought a similar CH with a twin single pump for a really low price, and I'm happy with it for what I paid, but up near 1000 bucks, I'd be pissed off at all the little stuff that is cheasy on these units. It's really a home-owner brand.

IF you can swing it, buy the Bel Air and rest easy knowing you have a good machine, not a machine that's just DRESSED as a good machine. 1500 bucks is only like, 1.5 UberHuber pipes anyhow.

Lol! You overestimate my prices.

This is great advice, Todd, and a lot of the detailed information I was looking for. Thanks!

PremalChheda wrote:http://www.maxtool.com/belaire-5-hp-80- ... at-175-psi

This belaire is only 1189 delivered and is just a little less cfm. I never lose pressure with it.

The one you have listed is better.

Thanks, Premal!

sandahlpipe wrote:Max tool delivered it into my garage at no additional charge. That's gotta count for something.

Did you purchase lift gate service?

No. The free shipping came with lift gate service. I only needed to take it off the pallet when it arrived. It also got to me a couple weeks before they estimated, so the call for the carrier to arrange delivery caught me off guard.

From a shipping standpoint you need to clarify when you order that a liftgate and pallet jack to get the thing into your garage are included. Call and make sure, even. Trust me.....I used to do shipping for a living.

scotties22 wrote:From a shipping standpoint you need to clarify when you order that a liftgate and pallet jack to get the thing into your garage are included. Call and make sure, even. Trust me.....I used to do shipping for a living.

Good idea, Scottie. Thanks!

sandahlpipe wrote:No. The free shipping came with lift gate service. I only needed to take it off the pallet when it arrived. It also got to me a couple weeks before they estimated, so the call for the carrier to arrange delivery caught me off guard.

Hopefully that's the case with whatever compressor I purchase!

I worked in the transportation industry for about 6 years. I fully expected to need to pay a surcharge for the lift gate service and have it dropped in my driveway. I was pleasantly surprised. They did use a regional carrier, though, so as Scottie said, call them and make sure it's covered. Typically, they will know when delivering to a residential area that they aren't going to have a shipping dock...


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And even then sometimes they just don't care...

PremalChheda wrote:http://www.maxtool.com/belaire-5-hp-80- ... at-175-psi

This belaire is only 1189 delivered and is just a little less cfm. I never lose pressure with it.

The one you have listed is better.

Premal posted this before when I was doing my research and I went with it. Though it does kick on when the pressure drops it never has dropped below the pressure I am blasting with. I haven't had any issues and am very happy with it.

RadDavis wrote:

baweaverpipes wrote:

wdteipen wrote:The Ingersoll Rand compressor you linked is the 5 HP 60 gallon. I have the 7.5 HP 80 gallon and it works well. I would imagine the 5HP 60 gallon would run continuously with sandblasting demands. The 7.5 HP 80 gal is twice as expensive but doesn't run continuously and provides a bit more consistency in pressure I would imagine. Were I you, I'd get the most HP and highest capacity you can afford.

I concur.

Ok then. I do too.

Rad