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Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:56 pm
by patiobum
I have done several serches and cannot locate information on Delrin and have a few questions.

1. What is the purpose of installing a delrin insert into a stem ?

2. What is the normal hole size in a stem ?

3. I turn acrylic pens and am wondering if it the same material as a pen blank ?

4. Good place to purchase acrylic blanks for stems ?

5. Good place to purchase briar blocks pre drilled and not drilled.

Thanks for sharing

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:43 pm
by Ocelot55
1. Delrin is a self lubricating material. It makes inserting the tenon and taking it off the pipe very smooth.
2. Around here stems are drilled out with a tapered 5/32" bit almost all the way through. We come back from the other side with a 1/16" bit and use files and modified saws to make a nice flat funnel at the bit end.
3. Acrylic works just fine for pipe stems. Another common material is ebonite.
4. & 5. Pipe makers emporium has a ton of materials to get you started. Another option is to purchase them through a current member on this board, Vermont Freehand. He has tons of pre-drilled kits as well as normal briar.

Oh, and welcome to the forum. :mrgreen:

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:07 pm
by RadDavis
1. Delrin is a material used as a shortcut by pussies who don't want to learn how to turn a proper tenon. :twisted:

That is all.

Rad

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:07 pm
by Literaryworkshop
Welcome to the forum.

I've gotten some good pre-drilled briar blocks from Mark Tinsky at http://www.amsmoke.com/.

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:01 am
by andrew
RadDavis wrote:1. Delrin is a material used as a shortcut by pussies who don't want to learn how to turn a proper tenon. :twisted:

That is all.

Rad
Rad is old. Pay no attention to his ramblings. He's been cutting stems before electricity :)

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:12 am
by jogilli
Ocelot55 wrote:2. Around here stems are drilled out with a tapered 5/32" bit almost all the way through. We come back from the other side with a 1/16" bit and use files and modified saws to make a nice flat funnel at the bit end.
what you talking about buckwheat... stems are 4 mm tapered .. with the last half inch 1.5mm ....and for tenons 7mm the new normal .. 11mm is preferred..at least by me.. don't listen to jesse.. he just bought his first set of drill bits yesterday... and who uses standard sizes anyway.. metric is sooooo much better 8) .. don't tell jesse but metric bits drill straighter than standard drill bits... and they never get dull :thumbsup:

james

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:16 am
by Ocelot55
jogilli wrote:
Ocelot55 wrote:2. Around here stems are drilled out with a tapered 5/32" bit almost all the way through. We come back from the other side with a 1/16" bit and use files and modified saws to make a nice flat funnel at the bit end.
what you talking about buckwheat... stems are 4 mm tapered .. with the last half inch 1.5mm ....and for tenons 7mm the new normal .. 11mm is preferred..at least by me.. don't listen to jesse.. he just bought his first set of drill bits yesterday... and who uses standard sizes anyway.. metric is sooooo much better 8) .. don't tell jesse but metric bits drill straighter than standard drill bits... and they never get dull :thumbsup:

james
Hmmm........well here in 'Merica we do things the right way. The ONLY way. And in Texas it reaches a whole 'nother level of awesome. The only "mm" I'm familiar with are the chocolate kind. They melt in your mouth not in your hand. That probably explains my expanding waistline. (Also an American trait)

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:56 am
by Sasquatch
What size of ammo do you put in your 9mm guns in Texas?

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:41 pm
by Ocelot55
Sasquatch wrote:What size of ammo do you put in your 9mm guns in Texas?
Well, Sas, the 9mm has been officially banned by the Texas State Legislature. Nothing smaller than a .45 over here! :thumbsup:

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:00 am
by patiobum
Thanks to all for the replies to the questions and a big thanks for the welcome.

I appreciate your patience. 8)

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:41 am
by wdteipen
RadDavis wrote:1. Delrin is a material used as a shortcut by pussies who don't want to learn how to turn a proper tenon. :twisted:

That is all.

Rad

This.

And I'll raise you a 'Delrin is a material used as a shortcut by pussies who don't want to learn how to turn a proper tenon on a wood lathe.'

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:36 am
by andrew
Wayne is sooooooo proud of himself for figuring out how to turn a tenon on a wood lathe :)
Delrin is my friend.

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:49 pm
by wdteipen
Actually I'm just too poor to afford a metal lathe. It's easier to try to convince people that it's the "real" way because that's how I do it. :lol: Although, I will admit that I have gotten pretty good at it out of necessity.

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:59 pm
by andrew
wdteipen wrote:Actually I'm just too poor to afford a metal lathe. It's easier to try to convince people that it's the "real" way because that's how I do it. :lol: Although, I will admit that I have gotten pretty good at it out of necessity.
Skills are skills man. I've always been impressed.

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:23 am
by wmolaw
Ocelot55 wrote:
Sasquatch wrote:What size of ammo do you put in your 9mm guns in Texas?
Well, Sas, the 9mm has been officially banned by the Texas State Legislature. Nothing smaller than a .45 over here! :thumbsup:
:clap: :rockon: :clap:

Re: Questions about stems and briar

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:26 pm
by pipedreamer
Jeff Cooper would be proud. God bless him.