Ready for Spoon Bits?

jogilli · Post by **jogilli** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:29 am

I guess your're the only one on the forum that doesn't know Nate... it's Nestle Quick mix... but don't tell anybody I told you

james

Nate · Post by **Nate** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:44 am

jogilli wrote:I guess your're the only one on the forum that doesn't know Nate... it's Nestle Quick mix... but don't tell anybody I told you

james

Oooohhhh, I see. I just have to fight the Nestle rabbit to get some. Thanks for the heads-up and your secret, well Mr. Weaver's secret, is safe with me. *wink*

d.huber · Post by **d.huber** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:58 am

jogilli wrote:I guess your're the only one on the forum that doesn't know Nate... it's Nestle Quick mix... but don't tell anybody I told you

james

I hear that stuff is toxic.

wdteipen · Post by **wdteipen** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:54 am

UberHuberMan wrote:
jogilli wrote:I guess your're the only one on the forum that doesn't know Nate... it's Nestle Quick mix... but don't tell anybody I told you

james
I hear that stuff is toxic.

I heard it was a key ingredient in meth.

Nate · Post by **Nate** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:22 pm

I love these bits!!!!

e Markle · Post by **e Markle** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:03 am

Almost look like a professional made them

Nate · Post by **Nate** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:12 am

e Markle wrote:Almost look like a professional made them

I know!!!

d.huber · Post by **d.huber** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:11 pm

Nate wrote:
e Markle wrote:Almost look like a professional made them
I know!!!

Nate!! You are grand and hilarious. So many exclamation points recently!!!!!

Nate · Post by **Nate** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:49 pm

UberHuberMan wrote:
Nate wrote:
e Markle wrote:Almost look like a professional made them
I know!!!
Nate!! You are grand and hilarious. So many exclamation points recently!!!!!

I have no idea what you're talking about??!!!!!

TreverT · Post by **TreverT** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:51 pm

I tweeted the arrival of mine today.

https://twitter.com/TalbertPipes/status ... 1983473664

Going to try them out tomorrow as soon as I get this current site update posted.

mredmond · Post by **mredmond** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:18 pm

I don't yet have the ability to freehand drill pipes, but I bought the set because I'm trying to collect quality tools when I can, and I know eventually I'll be able to freehand drill...looking ahead, and whatnot. That said, I have a question for you guys that are familiar with using spoon bits, which I have not used before. Is there any reason I shouldn't use these for the drill first method? Seems like they would work fine, but better safe than sorry.

Micah

Post by **Tyler** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:33 pm

mredmond wrote:I don't yet have the ability to freehand drill pipes, but I bought the set because I'm trying to collect quality tools when I can, and I know eventually I'll be able to freehand drill...looking ahead, and whatnot. That said, I have a question for you guys that are familiar with using spoon bits, which I have not used before. Is there any reason I shouldn't use these for the drill first method? Seems like they would work fine, but better safe than sorry.

Micah

Yes.

The point of this bit design is the half-round back. It keeps things from wobbling and getting off track when holding the pipe in your hand.

I've never tried, but I suspect that in a drill press it would serve only to make for a very inefficient cut that generated a lot of excess heat without adding any benefit. The rigidity of the tool prevents the wandering with standard methods.

I'm sure you could pull it off, but I'm pretty sure it would be a vastly inferior result and experience than if you use "normal" bits.

Joe Hinkle Pipes · Post by **Joe Hinkle Pipes** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:41 pm

I wouldn't risk dulling those bits on day to day drilling unless you have the ability to sharpen them easily. I'm not sure what that would take.

staffwalker · Post by **staffwalker** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:19 pm

Being the non-lathe person here who does ALL drilling on a drill press, I'll try to answer your question. Yes, you can use BP bits on a press. I have drilled somewhere in the neighborhood of 150-200 pipes with the last set of bits BP made. I also have and use several Lamb bits. The only thing that determines which bit I use is the final hole that bit will create and the amount of adjusting I have to do to use a short BP or a long Lamb bit. I've even done several shape first pipes using the drill press, (by holding the block in a vise, [the finished product is the same], I wouldn't advise holding it in your hand unless you don't need the hand). Frankly, I don't understand the advantage of the shape first method other than it's a great talking/selling point, i.e., since I shape first my pipes are far superior to your drill first pipes. I prefer the drill first method and don't think that would change if for some strange reason I ever decided to use a lathe. bob gilbert

mredmond · Post by **mredmond** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:48 pm

Thanks for the comments guys. I guess I should clarify. I'm using a wood lathe, not a drill press. My understanding is that "safe" freehand drilling needs to happen at a slower speed than a wood lathe will operate. I don't think that will change any answers, but I thought I'd throw it out there, if it does. What really prompted the question is the BP set has some different sizes and profiles than the bits I currently have, so I thought it might be nice to use them from time to time. I'm not worried about dulling or if it's most effective, I was more concerned with safety. More feedback is welcome.

Thanks!

Micah

Post by **Tyler** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:59 pm

mredmond wrote:Thanks for the comments guys. I guess I should clarify. I'm using a wood lathe, not a drill press. My understanding is that "safe" freehand drilling needs to happen at a slower speed than a wood lathe will operate. I don't think that will change any answers, but I thought I'd throw it out there, if it does. What really prompted the question is the BP set has some different sizes and profiles than the bits I currently have, so I thought it might be nice to use them from time to time. I'm not worried about dulling or if it's most effective, I was more concerned with safety. More feedback is welcome.

Thanks!

Micah

Slower is better, but I have used my wood lathe to drill by hand.

I'd grind a new $2 spade bit before I used these though, but that's me.

mredmond · Post by **mredmond** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:51 am

Thanks, Tyler. I have some bits from Rudat and Lamb, so I don't need to use the BP bits yet. I appreciate everyone's advice. I might get brave and try them or I might just wait until a metal lathe follows me home. I'll figure that out when they arrive.

Micah

mredmond · Post by **mredmond** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:58 am

I've got a teeny tiny little Unimat metal lathe that might work for freehand drilling, too. I'll test it out on some scrap. I've really got to start saving my money for a bigger metal lathe...

The Smoking Yeti · Post by **The Smoking Yeti** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:43 am

I was gonna go try freehand drilling a pipe just now- all I've got is a Tim West spade bit, will I have trouble drilling with that profile? Should I make I modify another bit on my grinder?

Joe Hinkle Pipes · Post by **Joe Hinkle Pipes** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:48 am

I wouldn't suggest that. On top of being unsafe it will be hard to he the block steady without getting chatter. The chamber will end up looking more like a star with faceted chatter marks. That's my theory anyway.

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