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pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:43 pm
by bregolad
Several days ago, I dropped a pipe I was working on , and the shank just snapped right off (f***). The stummel/shank junction was no less than 1/2" diameter. I blame the wood (self cured olive), but I can't help feeling a little paranoid.
I've had an eye for very thin shanks lately, wasp waisted, pencil shanks, etc., but I was wondering what you all do to prevent cracking with such thin tolerances. I thought I might try some stainless steel tubing for reinforcement, and I couldn't think of anything else.
Thoughts?

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:49 pm
by Dixie_piper
Not sure about reinforcements, but I don't think letting the smoke come in contact with metal would do much for taste. Not to mention differential expansion and the chemicals usually on most metals. Thin shanks is pretty much just risky business, meh thinks.
Having dealt with smaller pieces of olive in the past, it does tend to gain "weak spots" for no resaon. And curing is out of my league, so I'm of no help there, or much of anywhere really...
But I can say for sure, that Olive wood is pretty cotton pickin tempermental :)

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:58 pm
by Tyler
bregolad wrote: Thoughts?
Use briar.

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:59 pm
by Tyler
OK...OK...smart aleck answer aside, stainless tubing would certainly help.

Dixie,

Stainless tubing is used in pipe making quite a lot. None of your concerns are an issue.

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:00 pm
by caskwith
I regularly make 10mm shanks from briar. Of course I dont drop them which helps :P

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:44 pm
by TRS
caskwith wrote:I regularly make 10mm shanks from briar. Of course I dont drop them which helps :P
Just curious, what size tenon do you use on a shank that thin? Thanks

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:07 pm
by Dixie_piper
Tyler wrote:OK...OK...smart aleck answer aside, stainless tubing would certainly help.

Dixie,

Stainless tubing is used in pipe making quite a lot. None of your concerns are an issue.
:oops: My bad, I'll go do more homework

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:27 pm
by SimeonTurner
Tyler wrote:
bregolad wrote: Thoughts?
Use briar.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:43 pm
by Tyler
Dixie_piper wrote:
Tyler wrote:OK...OK...smart aleck answer aside, stainless tubing would certainly help.

Dixie,

Stainless tubing is used in pipe making quite a lot. None of your concerns are an issue.
:oops: My bad, I'll go do more homework
No worries...just letting you know.

Re: pencil shanks

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:37 am
by caskwith
BeatusLiebowitz wrote:
caskwith wrote:I regularly make 10mm shanks from briar. Of course I dont drop them which helps :P
Just curious, what size tenon do you use on a shank that thin? Thanks

I use 6mm tenons on pretty much all of my pipes.