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Tool?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:49 pm
by Karol
Guys, English being my second language I'm struggling to find the name for the tool that is visible on the following photo :oops: :

http://www.rdfield.com/images/Joura-_6.jpg

It's in the bottom right hand side corner. I suspect it can be really handy for smoothing out the tobacco chamber :)

/Karol

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:42 pm
by Tano
Could this possibly be the same tool?

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx ... ,130,43409

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:02 am
by Karol
oh yes, that's the one! burrs! :D thanks!

http://www.woodcarverssupply.com/store/ ... &mitem=122

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:14 am
by Ray Cover
Karol,

In some of the machinist catalogs you see these larger ones called rotary files sometimes.

To me, and most woodworkers, a true rotary file has teeth on it more like a rasp. However, metal workers sometimes call these larger burs rotary files too.

Ray

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:34 pm
by Frank
@Karol

If your intent is to drill/bore the tobacco chamber with such an item, these will do the same job for much less money:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PART ... XNO=947313
http://mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/ ... ose_Anchor

Some folks say they get chatter using this type of bit, but they always work fine for me.

If your intent is to use the burr freehand with a dremel or flexshaft to cleanup the tobacco chamber, you need a heck of a steady hand so as not to gouge pits.

@Ray
You're probably referring to these items:
Image

They're very aggresive, so I rarely use them.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:32 pm
by Karol
Chatter is exactly the problem I have. Having said that I still need to experiment with what I have (modified spade bits) to find the best solution. Thanks for the suggestions Frank, I'll try to find the tools you mentioned here in New Zealand.

/karol

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:35 pm
by Ray Cover
Frank,

No thats not it. Those are what woodworkers call a rotary file.

Metalworking rotary files have a different cut, just like a metal file has a different cut than a wood rasp. If you look those giant burs up in a Machinist catalog like MSC, J&L, Enco etc. thay are often called rotary files once they get over a certain size. My MSC catalog is a couple years old 2004-2005 but on page 157&158 they have these listed as rotary files.

I don't know why they do this. Seems to me a bur is a bur no matter how big it is.

Ray

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:37 pm
by Nick
What I want to know is how that half shaped stumel came to be? It looks like it was turned on a lathe, buy how could you turn somthing in that way?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:12 pm
by Karol
Nick wrote:What I want to know is how that half shaped stumel came to be? It looks like it was turned on a lathe, buy how could you turn somthing in that way?
Oh yes, isn't that intriguing... :D It also looks almost finished, polished and all. Maybe that's the only way of reliably knowing (and following) the grain, but what do I know... :wink:

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:49 am
by Karol
Karol wrote:Chatter is exactly the problem I have. Having said that I still need to experiment with what I have (modified spade bits) to find the best solution.
This is already OT, I just played around with the spade bit, made sure as best as I could that it's symmetrical, shortened it's shank significantly and skipped drilling the pilot hole. I firmly believe that the pilot I drilled before is the main reason for the chatter as without a material there is nothing to guide the bit. This time it went inside like a was drilling a block of butter. :shock: