Drilling question

hazmat · Post by **hazmat** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:27 am

How would you go about drilling the draft hole for a shape along these lines?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:59 am

Just like you would for any other pipe. Gimme a minute and I'll post a pic.

Try this on for size:

hazmat · Post by **hazmat** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:19 am

gotcha.. thanks..

JSPipes · Post by **JSPipes** » Wed May 03, 2006 11:43 am

It's also possible that it has a drifted shank. In this case, it will be drilled with a burr on a flexible shaft that fits inside a plastic sleeve. The sleeve is bent to the curve desired and then the burr ends up boring a hole with that curve.

I don't have the tooling for this yet, though it's a very intriguiging (I never spell that right) concept.

Joel

achduliebe · Post by **achduliebe** » Wed May 03, 2006 12:28 pm

Hey Joel,

I have heard of this also, but never seen much information on it. If you have any or come across any, would you send it to me.

Thanks,

alexanderfrese · Post by **alexanderfrese** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:36 pm

I think many of us would like to know more about that drifting drill. Maybe lack of understanding the terms, but I can't even imagine it. Still seems like a "circle with corners", as we say in GER.

Post by **KurtHuhn** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:59 pm

I knew I recalled a post about this in the past:
http://www.pipemakersforum.com/modules. ... torder=asc

Complete with a Todd Johnson vs Random flame war (ahhh, the old days) as well as a discussion on time economy and grading (which have both come up recently). Enjoy!

JSPipes · Post by **JSPipes** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:45 pm

Bryan, that's about all the information that I have! I've never investigated it and haven't looked into getting the needed tooling. So right now, that's all I got.

Joel

marks · Post by **marks** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:18 pm

As Kurt pointed out, the curved airway gets batted around here once in a while. My only reservation with a curved airway is that occasionally, the draft hole needs to be reamed out, as cake will build in the airway and constrict the airflow. This is more prevelant at the end of the airway near the bowl.

I actually reamed the airways in my pipes out a few years ago, and some of the pipes were 15+ years old. I got a reasonable amount of cake out of those. (This discussion reminds me that it is about time to do this again).

I don't mean to throw a monkey wrench into the discussion, but I was just wondering if anyone has figured out a way to ream those curved airways yet, of if that is even a concern of anyone else?

hazmat · Post by **hazmat** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:56 am

Don't worry that you've thrown in a monkey wrench.... I think this is more of a theoretical conversation than an operational conversation... therefore all thoughts are 100% applicable.. not to mention you provided me with a treasure-trove of acrylic information!!!

I honestly don't have any motiviation to drill a block in this style at this point.. I was just tooling through some pipe pics and got curious. Theorize on!!!

hazmat · Post by **hazmat** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:00 am

Don't worry that you've thrown in a monkey wrench.... I think this is more of a theoretical conversation than an operational conversation... therefore all thoughts are 100% applicable.. not to mention you provided me with a treasure-trove of acrylic information!!!

I honestly don't have any motiviation to drill a block in this style at this point.. I was just tooling through some pipe pics and got curious. Theorize on!!!

TreverT · Post by **TreverT** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:51 am

marks wrote:As Kurt pointed out, the curved airway gets batted around here once in a while. My only reservation with a curved airway is that occasionally, the draft hole needs to be reamed out, as cake will build in the airway and constrict the airflow. This is more prevelant at the end of the airway near the bowl.

I actually reamed the airways in my pipes out a few years ago, and some of the pipes were 15+ years old. I got a reasonable amount of cake out of those. (This discussion reminds me that it is about time to do this again).

I don't mean to throw a monkey wrench into the discussion, but I was just wondering if anyone has figured out a way to ream those curved airways yet, of if that is even a concern of anyone else?

This is THE reason why I have not pursued the idea further over the years. These days, I avoid making any pipe that cannot be reamed out via a straight drill, as I've done so often with my own collection. Curved passages are neat and certainly allow a lot of wilder shapes (like many other drilling tricks such as end caps, concealed radical angles, etc), but to me the loss of long-term practicality is too much.

mahaffy · Post by **mahaffy** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:07 pm

Not to class myself with the masters, but since Trever's only an apprentice I guess I can butt in: the first time you see one of those impossible bends you think "Wow! Is that neat or what?" And then you have to conclude, as you all have, it ain't worth thinking about because something like that couldn't be reamed. Lord, a curved stem sometimes takes extra care just getting a pipe cleaner down it; what pipe smoker other than a tyro would want to buy the grief?

bscofield · Post by **bscofield** » Fri May 05, 2006 1:21 pm

KurtHuhn wrote:I knew I recalled a post about this in the past:
http://www.pipemakersforum.com/modules. ... torder=asc

Complete with a Todd Johnson vs Random flame war (ahhh, the old days) as well as a discussion on time economy and grading (which have both come up recently). Enjoy!

Those were good times...

alexanderfrese · Post by **alexanderfrese** » Fri May 05, 2006 1:50 pm

ehm, not that I didn't find it in the dictionaries, but would someone please be so kind to post a link to a pic of a monkey wrench? Just to make sure I have the right idea and get a feeling for that saying?

Always keen on learning something new :thumb:

hazmat · Post by **hazmat** » Fri May 05, 2006 1:52 pm

as requested..

alexanderfrese · Post by **alexanderfrese** » Fri May 05, 2006 3:20 pm

Thank, You, Sir!

That was roughly what was in front of my inner eyes. I was too dumb to have a look on wikipedia, though.

And guess what: We German call most of these and their modern descendants "Engländer", which is nothing but "Englishman", due to the fact, that some english man has invented the modern version of these. Though the actual form of the adjustable spanners base on a swedish invention.
Also rather strange. I remember being pretty puzzled the first time I hear my father use that term…