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I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:59 pm
by shikano53
I started this one after discarding the one I posted a few days ago.
Jeremiah, I took your advice and cut back the edge on the 6" wheels I have to try and create a 'V' around the edges. Third picture.
Please see past the state of the shaping, I know it's rough but I wanted to hopefully gain some comments about the chin on this one before I proceed. I also changed my belt sander grit out to 120 as suggested. I'm trying hard to copy/emulate this Sasieni
Thanks folks.
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:44 pm
by RickB
I think that's looking a lot closer than the previous effort. Lot of meat left but I think you've still got the potential of a good pipe in there.
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:30 am
by caskwith
You cut back the disc on the wrong side.
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:16 am
by sandahlpipe
Yeah, the disc is supposed to have a relief on the back of the disc. That way you can get into the corners easier.
At some point, demonstration beats mere words. Walt made this video a few years ago, but it's still worth your time.
https://youtu.be/83UEf1g2xuU
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:29 am
by RickB
sandahlpipe wrote:At some point, demonstration beats mere words. Walt made this video a few years ago, but it's still worth your time.
https://youtu.be/83UEf1g2xuU
That video is 40 minutes well spent (and re-spent a couple times if I'm being honest).
What a great time to be alive.
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:50 am
by DocAitch
The chin looks better. I would suggest less taper on the shank.
You can cut the transition with a chain saw file.
The rear bottom of the bowl should have the same shape as the front. The bottom 25% of the bowl basically should be part of a sphere with the shank melded in with a small radius. The join should be a symmetrical tear drop with the point at the “South Pole”.
DocAitch
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:45 pm
by DocAitch
I would also suggest that you leave the taper on the upper portion of the bowl for last, or at least make it more subtle. As it is, it appears to be headed toward an egg or a brandy.
DocAitch.
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:40 pm
by pipeguy
Straighten out th shank look at top pipe as an example.
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:01 pm
by shikano53
Thanks guys, I was working away on all the advice and got a little greedy on the belt sander. When I say greedy what I mean is, "I thought I could save myself a little bit more time by taking a little bit more off", and in much less time than it takes to tell, I went too far and that was that.
Re: I Started Another Billiard And This Is Where I Am At
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:39 am
by DocAitch
Power tools are very seductive, and when you have developed the techniques to use them, they save time.
However, as you have noted, you can’t put material back once it’s ground or sawn off.
I now (after multiple similar episodes to the above) use a nice 0 cut Swiss half round file for most of my final (post French wheel) shaping. I have found that a solid hold on the stummel and a two handed filing technique are the way to go for me.
I examine the stummel and mark the high spots with a pencil, mount the stummel and file off the pencil marks. (I can PM you my set up for mounting the stummel)
Patience is also key. Take a deep breath, smoke your pipe, and consider your next steps.
DocAitch