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#11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:44 pm
by Jakub P.
Hello guys. I've just finished my second lovat. It was was my 5th pipe when I faced with that shape for the first time. I believe that my 11th pipe shows some progress. I'd say stem and contrast staining look better. I think I've finally found the right way and just need to improve it.
Tomorrow I'm going to start another lovat. I'll be grateful for any advice which can help to make it look better.
Thanks and have a great rest of the weekend.

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Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:01 pm
by LatakiaLover
The stem looks like you stopped shaping with 25% of the work remaining. The blade is too thick, the button too chunky, the slot unfinished, and the radius of the blade uneven.

The good news is there's no reason you can't keep going. No unrecoverable mistakes were made, you just stopped too soon.


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Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:01 pm
by Jakub P.
Thank you Mr. Dibos. I've already seen your video tutorial about stem (button to be exact) shaping. It's a great source of knowledge.
The problem is, it's so damn hard to make a proper stem. Even when I know the rules.

Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:45 pm
by LatakiaLover
Jakub P. wrote: The problem is, it's so damn hard to make a proper stem. Even when I know the rules.
Yes and no.

Yes, in that not many people manage it; but no in that anyone who is determined to, can.

The best way to get there I know of is to try to copy an existing good stem, so you have something to "go by." Think of it as a road map. Keep it within reach while working and compare frequently.

Remember that stem shaping is 100% subtractive, so to avoid trashing it and having to start over "sneak up" on the desired final dimensions until you get comfortable / experienced.

The rest is just knowing what tool to reach for in a given situation.

For example, giving the blade a symmetric, rounded cross-section (the red line is what you want, the yellow arrow points to the irregular arc you have) is easily done with a pillar file (a flat file which has no teeth on its edges).

http://www.ottofrei.com/Glardon-Vallorb ... ile-6-Inch

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Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:47 pm
by sandahlpipe
The stem and especially button won't be as comfortable as one should expect from a handmade pipe. The bottom third of the bowl is not symmetrical. The cheeks don't match each other, and the curve on the chin doesn't match the shank side curve. Otherwise, it's not too bad.

Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:11 am
by MmmPeace
Jakub P. wrote:Thank you Mr. Dibos. I've already seen your video tutorial about stem (button to be exact) shaping. It's a great source of knowledge.
The problem is, it's so damn hard to make a proper stem. Even when I know the rules.
Would you mind sharing a link for this tutorial video please? Having difficulty shaping stems/buttons..

Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:36 am
by DocAitch
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8600
This is about finishing behind the button. There is a lot more material in the "Stem Work" section.
DocAitch

Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:49 am
by MmmPeace
Thanks, Doc!

Re: #11 Lovat

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:16 pm
by pipedreamer
Nice job, but the stem needs to be finished, per Latakias comments. Then U will have a very nice pipe Sir!!!