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Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:55 pm
by DocAitch
I am finishing 10 pipes and among them is this obligatory Billiard
Length 6.25"
Bowl height 2.05"
Bowl depth 1.90"
Bowl diameter 0.73"
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Yes, the shank is also longer than the back of the bowl height. I decided that I would rather leave it on the pipe than have it join the dust in the collector
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the shank also pinches in at mid shaft
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This a Delrin tenon and I had a little difficulty with the glue joint. The shank is a bit egged because this is all done freehand.
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DocAitch

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:51 pm
by Ocelot55
Wow, what an improvement you've been showing lately, Doc. Good job!

Other than what you pointed out, I'd say you can thin the stem down a bit. Right now you can see the convex lines. They should be either dead straight or slightly concave toward the bite zone.

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:05 am
by sandahlpipe
I like it. Aside from what has been mentioned, I would have shortened the stem about a quarter inch to compensate for the extra length in the shank. Otherwise, it's looking really nice.

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:27 am
by DocAitch
Thank you, gentlemen.
This was the second stem I put on this pipe. I had dropped my calipers and they must have hit just right, because I didn't catch that it was 0.025" off until after I had cut the bite area down to 0.14" before sanding. I ruined the integral tenon on this one and had to replace it with Delrin, and by that time, I just wanted to get it done.
DocAitch

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:51 am
by scotties22
I really like the long shank, Doc. But then, I'm partial to pipes with long shanks ;-)

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:37 pm
by Sasquatch
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I've put a yellow arrow on a light-line that exhibits a slight curve. It should be straight. Every line, every angle on that stem, should be straight. Indicated this in blue. Every reflection on the shank and stem should be a straight line (differing angles from shank to stem of course). File with a broad flat file until you have flatness.

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:40 pm
by LatakiaLover
What Sas just said. ^^^^

Tricky to do until you learn to file SIDEWAYS to obtain straight lines, though. (Since it's counter-intuitive most carvers don't even try it at first.)

Also, these are easier to use and more forgiving than a file because of their super-light weight and the edges don't/can't dig:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss ... ail+boards

PS -- Damn fine work overall, Doc. You came, you saw, and you are conquering. It's a joy to watch. :D

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:34 pm
by DocAitch
LatakiaLover wrote:
Also, these are easier to use and more forgiving than a file because of their super-light weight and the edges don't/can't dig:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss ... ail+boards.
Thanks George, I do use those when I am in the last stages of shaping the button, haven't tried them on the long straights of shank and stem. Still working on techniques.
DocAitch

Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:55 am
by wdteipen
Yep, pretty nice pipe. I agree with critique already given as if it matters. The only other thing I'll add is that the curve in the cheeks where the shank meets the bowl is a touch too defined and you loose the shape of the bowl slightly. It appears to only be on one side from the pics. It creates a straight line when it should follow the curve and the transition should be defined but more gradual so it doesn't look like a cylinder crammed into a sphere.
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Re: Another Attempt at a Billiard

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:49 am
by calsbeek
LatakiaLover wrote:
PS -- Damn fine work overall, Doc. You came, you saw, and you are conquering. It's a joy to watch. :D
Missed a perfect opportunity here for "You came, you saw, you lacquered"

:thumbsup: