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Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:04 pm
by DocAitch
oklahoma red wrote:In my next attempt to be useful I'll try to present the following in such a manner that even Tyler and George can follow along :lol:
They also offer a model K-32 described as a heavy duty model but no diameter is given in their catalog. There is a visual difference in diameter between the two as shown in their picture.
I would guess that it is too big or Steve would be offering it. Call Kemper if you really want to know.
That larger tool might be just the thing for opening the mouth of the draft hole so that you can pass a cleaner on those bent pipes where the draft hole and the mortise are on different axes. I have used Steve's tool for that but it is a little too flexible and can mar the mortise wall.
DocAitch

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:40 pm
by DocAitch
LatakiaLover wrote:Or, you could just cut some lengths of Delrin rod to handle length, drill a 1" deep axial hole that's slightly smaller in diameter than the OD of the blade, and screw these it in:

http://www.ottofrei.com/Store/Saw-Blade ... 5-890.html

Wrap the handle with a bit-O-coach's or stage tape for a comfy, secure grip, and you're home.
I purchased some of these and they are different from the blades sold by Steve Norse. (longer spiral, fewer "teeth" per unit measure). They are also listed as "wax saws".
I will post my impressions when I cut my next slots.
I also plan to use InstaMorph for the handles.
DocAitch

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:10 am
by Charl
I think the Kemper files are actually intended for use with wax, if I'm not mistaken.

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:33 am
by kamkiel
DocAitch wrote:
LatakiaLover wrote:Or, you could just cut some lengths of Delrin rod to handle length, drill a 1" deep axial hole that's slightly smaller in diameter than the OD of the blade, and screw these it in:

http://www.ottofrei.com/Store/Saw-Blade ... 5-890.html

Wrap the handle with a bit-O-coach's or stage tape for a comfy, secure grip, and you're home.
I purchased some of these and they are different from the blades sold by Steve Norse. (longer spiral, fewer "teeth" per unit measure). They are also listed as "wax saws".
I will post my impressions when I cut my next slots.
I also plan to use InstaMorph for the handles.
DocAitch
I just bought a similar "wax saw" too. Mine should arrive within the next two days. I hope they work well. After I placed the order I started wondering if they're stiff or flexible. Are those kemper tools flexible?

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:07 am
by Charl
There is a bit of flex. Ask Sas.

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:16 am
by sandahlpipe
They are flexible, but not too flexible.

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:30 am
by oklahoma red
Charl wrote:I think the Kemper files are actually intended for use with wax, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm sure the Kemper would work with wax but they are intended for ceramic greenware as are all of their various tools.

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:04 am
by Charl
I was wrong then, thanks for sorting that out Red!

Re: Vermont Slot Funneling Tool - Help

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:21 pm
by DocAitch
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The Otto Frei wax files have a looser spiral than the Kemper and don't cut as fast. Depending on how you put a handle on them, they can be considerably longer and they are stiffer. They will cut the ebonite. I got a couple of the larger diameter files, put a handle on one, and they can be used in funneling as well. The larger diameter file is at the top.
I used Instamorph to make the handles.
DocAitch