Blasted Volcano...
Blasted Volcano...
I personally hate the volcano shape. That being said, I can appreciate the work that goes behind one. I've seen where some of you guys who actually know a thing or two have taken this shape and even made some remarkable out it. (i.e. Mr. Weaver and his pipeodelic work.) I've been on an unplanned Dublin kick lately and decided to go the opposite route and that led me to the volcano. This is my first attempt at the shape so I would really appreciate your critique. Thanks guys.
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Very nice pipe, and well executed.
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That's your best work yet, I think.
The stem is a bit too long overall (both the cylindrical and blade portions), and the cylinder/blade transition edges a bit over-buffed, but that's about it. Maybe a slight sideways cant as well (bottom pic), but that's tough to see with parallax & etc.
PS -- the rim might be a bit thin (and therefore prone to burning), but we'd need a top or oblique-down pic to be sure.
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The stem is a bit too long overall (both the cylindrical and blade portions), and the cylinder/blade transition edges a bit over-buffed, but that's about it. Maybe a slight sideways cant as well (bottom pic), but that's tough to see with parallax & etc.
PS -- the rim might be a bit thin (and therefore prone to burning), but we'd need a top or oblique-down pic to be sure.
PPS -- Stellar blast
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I agree that the stem is too long.
Other than that the composition is nice and neat. Volcanoes are great for practicing those convex curves. That skill will transfer over to different shapes.
Great work!
Other than that the composition is nice and neat. Volcanoes are great for practicing those convex curves. That skill will transfer over to different shapes.
Great work!
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I really appreciate you guys taking the time to give me some pointers. I completely agree that the stem is too long. If I had to go back and do it over I think I would take half the length off the cylinder part but leave the length in the "blade." As I looked over a lot of pictures of other volcanoes on thing that I didn't like was that many of them seems stubby, almost nosewarmer'ish to me and I think I over compensated.
When shaping this pipe, I fist took it down to volcano with straight angles, no convex curve. Then used a dremel to create the convex. Is this a similar process for some of you other guys that have worked on this shape? Is there a better way? The angle of the shank didn't allow me to turn too far into the bowl on the lathe so most of it was done on the sanding disc.
George, I will try to get a photo of the rim in a bit so you can tell me if I went to thing or not.
Thanks again for the help.
When shaping this pipe, I fist took it down to volcano with straight angles, no convex curve. Then used a dremel to create the convex. Is this a similar process for some of you other guys that have worked on this shape? Is there a better way? The angle of the shank didn't allow me to turn too far into the bowl on the lathe so most of it was done on the sanding disc.
George, I will try to get a photo of the rim in a bit so you can tell me if I went to thing or not.
Thanks again for the help.
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The technique doesn't necessarily matter if you achieve the desired end result. Of course, if you're doing this sort of thing for a living, efficiency plays a huge role. I've created convex curves using hand files, a dremel, and most recently the sanding disk on a variable speed motor. I've personally found the disk to be the most efficient way to achieve what I want, but it took time and there was a learning curve. I shied away from the disk when I first started working at Smokershaven because I could achieve better results, faster with hand files. That was what I knew. However after some experience I've found the disk to be much better. Your experience my prove similar, or different, but you should try experimenting with various tools to discover what is right for you.
So IOW, do what works best to get the result you want. Except for belt sanders... people who use those to shape a pipe are crazy...
So IOW, do what works best to get the result you want. Except for belt sanders... people who use those to shape a pipe are crazy...
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Whoa! As far as making a pipe look like a volcano...you've done it! Your blast looks like lava flowing down the slope, the color makes it look as if it's smoldering, and the bottom of the pipe looks like a lava flow after it has cooled off and solidified. Great job!
Maybe a red cumberland would've kept the motif going and gave it some extra fire, but really you've got a grade-A volcano!
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Maybe a red cumberland would've kept the motif going and gave it some extra fire, but really you've got a grade-A volcano!
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I hate you....you're ugly........SORRY, I forgot to turn off my inner monologue before I started typing
Great pipe! I LOVE the blast on the bottom of the pipe!
I have only finished one Volcano myself and did most of the shaping by hand with a half round file. I did very roughly shape it on the disc but was hesitant to go too far with it...didn't want to ruin the pipe. I am a bit more comfortable shaping on the disc now and would probably do more on the disc if I were to make another Volcano.
Great pipe! I LOVE the blast on the bottom of the pipe!
I have only finished one Volcano myself and did most of the shaping by hand with a half round file. I did very roughly shape it on the disc but was hesitant to go too far with it...didn't want to ruin the pipe. I am a bit more comfortable shaping on the disc now and would probably do more on the disc if I were to make another Volcano.
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Agreed that the cylinder part could be shorter. Other than that, me likey alot.
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nice blast
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This is one of the best you have done. Nate King crossed my mind since he and Bruce Weaver are two that give this shape life and beauty.The stem is good and imho a personal choice.The blast is very well done!
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Thanks for the critiques and compliments guys.
George, here is a pic of the rim. Too small?
George, here is a pic of the rim. Too small?
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I have made thinner....looks okay to me. I wouldn't recommend going any thinner than that just as a precaution.
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That rim edge thickness should be fine.
The (nicely done, btw) slight bevel made it hard to tell from the side how thin it was, is all. (And a blade edge will dish/scallop/burn with disconcerting ease.)
Often volcanos have a problem there because it's easy to "sharpen" them too much when fine-tuning the profile, I guess. (The technical term for that would be an "oopsie")
So, once again, outstanding job. As Rad would say, "Now... go make another!"
The (nicely done, btw) slight bevel made it hard to tell from the side how thin it was, is all. (And a blade edge will dish/scallop/burn with disconcerting ease.)
Often volcanos have a problem there because it's easy to "sharpen" them too much when fine-tuning the profile, I guess. (The technical term for that would be an "oopsie")
So, once again, outstanding job. As Rad would say, "Now... go make another!"
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You might learn to love the shape; great job on the shape, nice blast and color choice.
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Well done! With these pointers, I would love to see the next one!
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So apparently this is idiosyncratic, since all of you more experienced people haven't mentioned it, but the volcano shape seems to me to be more organic and less traditional, while the cylindrical shank and saddle seem to be more traditional. It seems to me that a shank like Mr. Weaver does (bottom line of the volcano continues to a shank that is more D-shaped with the bottom flat, then a asymmetical half-saddle thing) on his volcanoes flows a bit better.
Am I just a weirdo for thinking that way?
Am I just a weirdo for thinking that way?
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Thomas, I think you are dead on. I actually thought about doing that sort of shank before I ever started shaping. However, this being my fist attempt at a volcano I was pretty intimidated by it and decided to keep things more simple. Next time, though...no excuses.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to knock your pipe at all. It's really nicely done. I'd love to see you do another like that.
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What an butthole.Thomas Tkach wrote:Yeah, I didn't mean to knock your pipe at all. It's really nicely done. I'd love to see you do another like that.
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