grades of briar?? (a bit of a newbie question)

For the things that don't fit neatly into the other categories.
Post Reply
nightserpent
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:47 pm

grades of briar?? (a bit of a newbie question)

Post by nightserpent »

Having completed my first briar pipe and learned something, I am looking to put a bit more planning and consideration into my next piece ( I hope you're all with me so far :wink: ). I'm now trying to acquire a block which will cater to my design, rather than find something in a random block. I'm encountering a number of "grades" of briar, and so I attempted to read up on them, though I haven't found so much about how they are graded. To confuse things a bit more, some describe ebauchon and plateu to be different grades on top of the grade 1, 2 and 3 system. I get that 1 is highest (or at least the more expensive), but is this a matter of personal discretion or is there an actual system to this grading, much like how coins or comic might be graded by collectors? Does a higher grade suggest a more interesting grain, or is it more about quality and perhaps lack of inclusions, etc?

Info and input most welcome, thanks in advance! :)

~Paul
Last edited by nightserpent on Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
sandahlpipe
Posts: 2106
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:49 pm
Location: Zimmerman, MN
Contact:

Re: grades of briar?? (a bit of a newbiw question)

Post by sandahlpipe »

Grade 1 is typically the best block from that particular briar mill. Grade 2 is typically decent quality grain, but the grain patterns may not be as tight as a grade 1. Grade 3 is typically used for rustication or sandblast.

All briar will have natural flaws and inclusions. There is a general tendency to have fewer fatal flaws in higher grade briar, but that's only a rule of thumb.

Plateaux refers to a block where a live edge is left on. The straight grain typically runs vertical on these blocks. The ebauchons typically have cross grain instead and no live edge. There is not a big difference between a grade 1 ebauchon or grade 1 plateaux in quality or tightness of grain. Some mills will also offer grades better than their grade 1 at a premium price, but you typically need to buy them directly from the mill. I don't have any experience with those. The regular grades meet my current needs just fine.
---
Fail early, fail often. Your success depends on it.

Jeremiah Sandahl
http://sandahlpipe.com
nightserpent
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:47 pm

Re: grades of briar?? (a bit of a newbiw question)

Post by nightserpent »

Thanks, Jeremiah, I appreciate the reply. It sounds like for the most part that's it's largely subjective and mostly a rough guide for quality, not a cut-and-dry system.

Does this loose grading system ever cause for confusion or dispute?
User avatar
Sasquatch
Posts: 5147
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:46 am

Re: grades of briar?? (a bit of a newbiw question)

Post by Sasquatch »

Most of us just buy from the same people over and over again, and we learn what to expect at whatever grade/price. Knowing that one guy grades a certain way as opposed to someone else is one thing... knowing that I get 19/20 pipes without big flaws in the "grade 1" block versus losing 5 or 6 pipes out of 20 with someone else's "grade 1" (or XX or whatever) is more important.

You are thinking in terms of buying a select few blocks and maximizing your return, of course. Most of us graduate from that thinking eventually, and now just buy 50 or 100 at a time and deal with whatever shows up - that's part of the fun! :thumbsup:
ALL YOUR PIPE ARE BELONG TO US!
User avatar
sandahlpipe
Posts: 2106
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:49 pm
Location: Zimmerman, MN
Contact:

Re: grades of briar?? (a bit of a newbiw question)

Post by sandahlpipe »

Or you can be a briar nut like me and buy a few hundred at a time. The more briar you have, the better the chances you have of selecting just the right block for the idea you've got in mind.
---
Fail early, fail often. Your success depends on it.

Jeremiah Sandahl
http://sandahlpipe.com
nightserpent
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:47 pm

Re: grades of briar?? (a bit of a newbiw question)

Post by nightserpent »

That makes plenty of sense, as that way one could carefully inspect each block and get the best possible match. Seeing that I've only made one briar pipe so far I am not quite ready to purchase 50-100 blocks. Talk to me after I've made two. :wink:
Post Reply