Pipe #22 Ball

[Frank]

Perfect example.

[ToddJohnson]

Ahem! thread pirates...

Here's an underbent stem that is probably easier to appreciate than the one Todd posted (although I personally LOVE the one Todd posted, and most of Nanna's pipes for that matter).

I really like that pipe . . . even though the stem is a bit overbent!

Todd

[bscofield]

I really like that pipe . . . even though the stem is a bit overbent!

Todd

[kbadkar]

That Former stem doesn't strike me as underbent. It follows the flow of the pipe and the button is just slightly off perpendicular to the bowl top, to account for teeth hang. The same with Todd's example, taking the angle of the drilled chamber into account. Nanna's pipe, on the other hand (though it's hard to tell the angle of the drilled chamber), seems to have the button quite a bit off perpendicular to the bowl angle. It doesn't look right, but the true test would be to let it hang and light the puppy up. As I understand Todd's argument, on a bent pipe, the angle between the bowl centerline and button (airway) should be slightly acute. Her's is way acute. Wayne's ball is obtuse, which is obviously an overbend. A pipe is a smoking instrument first, and all artistry must flow from that source. Nobody wants an great looking, status-symbol luxury vehicle that drives like crap... (oh, wait, some people bought Jaguars in the 80s).

[KurtHuhn]

I suppose you could say that the stem on this pipe is *over* AND *under* bent.

When taken in relation to the angle and direction of the tobacco chamber, it's overbent. However, when taken in relation to the bowl rim it's slightly underbent. Either way, it flows very well, and is a great example of composition. There aren't many active members here that couldn't learn something from that pipe.

[jeff]

Ahem! thread pirates...

Here's an underbent stem that is probably easier to appreciate than the one Todd posted (although I personally LOVE the one Todd posted, and most of Nanna's pipes for that matter).

I really like that pipe . . . even though the stem is a bit overbent!

Todd

You beat me to it. That pipe's stem is not underbent in the slightest. He echoes the curve of the shank and bowl nicely--if not a little too far--and has a more traditional bend in the stem in my opinion. I do, however, think that it could use a little less bend. The length is quite nice, though. While there are indeed other fine examples of the style, the underbent stem is an Ivarsson contribution. As with Todd, I tend to prefer underbent stems, though each individual pipe must be viewed differently.

Jeff

[jeff]

I suppose you could say that the stem on this pipe is *over* AND *under* bent.

You could. But you'd be wrong.

[ToddJohnson]

Here's the way I actually prefer them. I think you'll all agree this flows exceptionally well :

[KurtHuhn]

I suppose you could say that the stem on this pipe is *over* AND *under* bent.

You could. But you'd be wrong.

Then I propose we continue the discussion over glasses of Scotch.

[jeff]

Here's the way I actually prefer them. I think you'll all agree this flows exceptionally well :

I don't know Todd. I think a slight bend upward would follow the curve of the stem nicely and further insulate against accusations of it being overbent.

[jeff]

I suppose you could say that the stem on this pipe is *over* AND *under* bent.

You could. But you'd be wrong.

Then I propose we continue the discussion over glasses of Scotch.

I prefer bottles. Plastic ones.

Mmm.

[KurtHuhn]

I prefer bottles. Plastic ones.

Mmm.

The ones on the bottom shelf?

[jeff]

Yep. The same level on which you may find the best cereals.

[KurtHuhn]

Here's the way I actually prefer them. I think you'll all agree this flows exceptionally well [

I don't know. Perhaps you should finish it and send it to me for "evaluation". That way I can fully appreciate the composition, and learn from the example.

[KurtHuhn]

Yep. The same level on which you may find the best cereals.

While Duggan's Dew may satisfy the daily requirements, I prefer to get philisophical over a crystal glass of Talisker.

Well, as long as someone else is buying, anyway.

[jeff]

My favorites are:

VAT 69 which specifies on the back label that the customer can be assured of the fine quality their beverage possesses by the fact that they age their elixir for NO MORE than one year.

Scotch. Who needs a brand?

Jeff

[ToddJohnson]

My favorites are:

VAT 69 which specifies on the back label that the customer can be assured of the fine quality their beverage possesses by the fact that they age their elixir for NO MORE than one year.

Scotch. Who needs a brand?

Jeff

I typically just serve Isopropyl Alcohol with a little brown food coloring. No one really knows the difference between that and Laphroaig until someone passes out after one glass.

Todd

[KurtHuhn]

Nobody gets to drink my rotgut! They get that crap that I keep in kegs in the draft freezer right next to my pipe collection.

[bscofield]

This pipe is overbent





Apparently I can't leave this discussion alone.

[wdteipen]

Looks perfect to me.