Pipe #3 - Coachman

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Sasquatch wrote:I'd like to see that curve be a bit more gradual, flattening out nearer the bit end of the stem. If you think about bending a branch, the bend kinda starts near where the weight is, ya know? So I guess I find that a bit too "archy" for my tastes, and I suspect that both the thickness of the stem and the curve of it are what I'm not that fond of there. It's done well, but it's not done "finely", if that makes any sense.
That does make sense, thanks for the thoughts! My original thoughts were as you noted, but practical application got the better of me. The original also had a longer, thinner shank. When I do it again, I will try to find a larger piece of briar so I can make a thinner shank and stem, effecting the arc I was going for. Good stuff, thanks!
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What a guy imagines, and what a guy winds up making, and getting those two things to line up, and also to stop imagining ugly shit, or correct it once you find out that your imagining was flawed.... that's just how you get better and better. Occassionally a piece of briar will screw you or you'll make an outright physical mistake, but by and large, the process seems to be one of making things, looking at them, and making them better next time.

I've had a lot of fun making calabashes and dublins lately - hardly made anything else. And refining the shapes, playing with contrasting bits and pieces.... it's taught me as much as doing more avante garde stuff would have, or maybe more. Baby steps!
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Careful implementation. Something I see in most of the work presented in this forum. I'm frankly surprised.
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maxmil wrote:Careful implementation. Something I see in most of the work presented in this forum. I'm frankly surprised.
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Thank you Felix, I appreciate it!
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maxmil wrote:Careful implementation. Something I see in most of the work presented in this forum. I'm frankly surprised.
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Interesting conclusion. In my opinion, the opposite is true for most of us on the forum - myself included.
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e Markle wrote:
maxmil wrote:Careful implementation. Something I see in most of the work presented in this forum. I'm frankly surprised.
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Interesting conclusion. In my opinion, the opposite is true for most of us on the forum - myself included.
Might have been a bad translation by Google translator
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e Markle wrote:
maxmil wrote:Careful implementation. Something I see in most of the work presented in this forum. I'm frankly surprised.
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Interesting conclusion. In my opinion, the opposite is true for most of us on the forum - myself included.
To which conclusion are you referring e Markle?
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Nate wrote: To which conclusion are you referring e Markle?
He said he thought most of the work displayed on the forum shows "careful implementation," and that surprises me. Aside from a handful of us (Rad, Bruce, and *maybe* Todd ;) ) most of the work here is lacking in that department. That's not a criticism, just a result of the fact that we're at various stages of learning.

Didn't mean to highjack your thread though.
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e Markle wrote:
Nate wrote: To which conclusion are you referring e Markle?
He said he thought most of the work displayed on the forum shows "careful implementation," and that surprises me. Aside from a handful of us (Rad, Bruce, and *maybe* Todd ;) ) most of the work here is lacking in that department. That's not a criticism, just a result of the fact that we're at various stages of learning.

Didn't mean to highjack your thread though.
No hijack, I just wanted to make sure I understood you correctly. I would definitely appreciate any critique you may have of my pipe. :)
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Speak for youself, Markle! My work fairly reeks of "careful implementation". :lol: :lol:
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Does this sit in your mouth pretty heavy?
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MrChurchwarden wrote:Does this sit in your mouth pretty heavy?
Actually it's not too hard on the jaw and has a fairly good balance! It weighs in at 33 grams (1.2 ounces), so it's not too bad. I will post what the owner thinks after he gets it and starts smoking it.
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I wanted to say that the pipe is very well done, and that the work I see in this forum are of high quality, compared with those who see in other forums.
I hope this time, I understand it better.
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Yes. This pipe is good.
The shape got tension.
The execution is perfect.
I´m impressed.

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Thank you to both, I am humbled by your words.

Maxmil, your understanding is right on, as is the translation. Thank you.

Walle, thank you for your compliment, that means a lot! Thanks!
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Nate wrote: I would definitely appreciate any critique you may have of my pipe. :)
For number 3, I'd say you're doing fine - especially if you don't have a lathe. I didn't read all the comments so these may have been mentioned already.
1. It might just be the pic, but it looks like there are some sanding marks on the bottom of the shank/bowl and the rim.
2. You want that stem to be nice and thin for at least a 1/4" or so. If it's not, then the button won't do much to improve the grip.
3. Buy a lathe ;)
4. Don't waste your time with silver work and fancy inlays to start with. In your initial post you mentioned wanting to learn to make a pipe. I would just focus on one skill at a time. Learn to make a pipe, then learn to do silver work, etc.
5. Most importantly: I wouldn't solicit advice from guys like me! Ask Bruce, Tyler, Todd and (if you have to) Rad.

My two cents.
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e Markle wrote: For number 3, I'd say you're doing fine - especially if you don't have a lathe. I didn't read all the comments so these may have been mentioned already.
1. It might just be the pic, but it looks like there are some sanding marks on the bottom of the shank/bowl and the rim. 2. You want that stem to be nice and thin for at least a 1/4" or so. If it's not, then the button won't do much to improve the grip.
3. Buy a lathe ;)
4. Don't waste your time with silver work and fancy inlays to start with. In your initial post you mentioned wanting to learn to make a pipe. I would just focus on one skill at a time. Learn to make a pipe, then learn to do silver work, etc.
5. Most importantly: I wouldn't solicit advice from guys like me! Ask Bruce, Tyler, Todd and (if you have to) Rad.

My two cents.
Thank you and I will consider these thoughts for future work! Ha, Bruce, Tyler, Todd and even Rad can comment all they like, but they are busy guys and I've had some good critiques already. Mayhaps in the future ;)
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Oh, and I want a lathe....bad. I am working towards saving for the PM lathe. I have had the pleasure of working on many lathes and I want one even if it's just to play on.
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I do not use the lathe.
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maxmil wrote:I do not use the lathe.
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Well Felix, you certainly do great work without one!
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