How to drill?

[tritrek]

Hello All,
I'm making some plans on future possible pipes and I'm wondering how would you drill this shape?
I made a suggestion but that seems pretty wild to me...

Thanks a lot!!

[ToddJohnson]

Use a larger shorter mortise and go slightly deeper with the tobacco chamber. Nice Chonowitsch by the way

TJ

[tritrek]

Use a larger shorter mortise and go slightly deeper with the tobacco chamber. Nice Chonowitsch by the way
TJ

Benny Jorgensen BTW
I was just trying to start from a given form and suddenly I realized I have no clue how to drill this shape...

Thanks for the answer!

[ConfuciusConfusion]

I've seen lotso pipes like with either shank cap or

2nd mortise


or drill-plug-drill.

[tritrek]

Hm... that makes sense! Thanks!

[ToddJohnson]

I've seen lotso pipes like with either shank cap or

2nd mortise


or drill-plug-drill.

These sorts of pieces don't actually have "plugs." The mortise is drilled, then the draft hole, and then a sleeve is cut into the shank face with a "hole saw." Then a piece of brass or silver is cut, inserted, and glued into place. This is done on pipes with military bits to protect the shank from cracking.

There are carvers who use what we call a "false mortise" to increase the angle at which the draft hole can be drilled, and then the mortise is sleeved in briar and the face stained black. This allows the draft hole to enter the mortise floor closer to the center rather than extremely high.

TJ

[tritrek]

Could you please explain how we make a false mortise? Thanks

[ToddJohnson]

Could you please explain how we make a false mortise? Thanks

Just drill a big hole for the mortise--like 3/8"--and then drill your draft hole. Once the draft hole is drilled just turn down a briar "plug" to 3/8" OD and say 5/16" ID. Insert the "plug" into the 3/8" mortise and glue it into place. Then face the shank and stain the whole thing black. The only real problem with this is that, in the event that you need to drill out the draft hole years down the road, you won't be able to. A bristled pipecleaner and some alcohol will basically do the same thing, but some guys insist on being able to re-drill a pipe. I don't do false mortises, but am completely agnostic about the process.

Todd

[tritrek]

Could you please explain how we make a false mortise? Thanks

Just drill a big hole for the mortise--like 3/8"--and then drill your draft hole. Once the draft hole is drilled just turn down a briar "plug" to 3/8" OD and say 5/16" ID. Insert the "plug" into the 3/8" mortise and glue it into place. Then face the shank and stain the whole thing black. The only real problem with this is that, in the event that you need to drill out the draft hole years down the road, you won't be able to. A bristled pipecleaner and some alcohol will basically do the same thing, but some guys insist on being able to re-drill a pipe. I don't do false mortises, but am completely agnostic about the process.

Todd

Thanks for explaining... looks quite time consuming and difficult...

[ToddJohnson]

Could you please explain how we make a false mortise? Thanks

Just drill a big hole for the mortise--like 3/8"--and then drill your draft hole. Once the draft hole is drilled just turn down a briar "plug" to 3/8" OD and say 5/16" ID. Insert the "plug" into the 3/8" mortise and glue it into place. Then face the shank and stain the whole thing black. The only real problem with this is that, in the event that you need to drill out the draft hole years down the road, you won't be able to. A bristled pipecleaner and some alcohol will basically do the same thing, but some guys insist on being able to re-drill a pipe. I don't do false mortises, but am completely agnostic about the process.

Todd

Thanks for explaining... looks quite time consuming and difficult...

Not really. You're basically just making a sleeve and gluing it in place. Don't be intimidated by it at all.

TJ

[tritrek]

One more point to buy a lathe